请教:关于曼达的

一飘儿

<P>至尊嘉瓦仁波且说过:"假使你经常供养曼荼罗,我认为你应该供养二十三曼荼罗,因为具有特殊加持力量."怎么样理解这个教示!</P><P>我一直是做二十五聚曼达供养的.</P>

笨者之帚

<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-layout-grid-align: none" align=left><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 42pt; FONT-FAMILY: 隶书; mso-hansi-font-family: 华文宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ansi-language: ZH-CN"><FONT face=宋体 size=3>甚深道上师瑜伽供养上师法·</FONT></SPAN></B><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 42pt; FONT-FAMILY: 隶书; mso-hansi-font-family: 华文宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ansi-language: ZH-CN"><FONT face=宋体 size=3>《乐空双运》经验引导<BR></FONT></SPAN></B></P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 42pt; FONT-FAMILY: 隶书; mso-hansi-font-family: 华文宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ansi-language: ZH-CN"><FONT face=宋体><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none" align=left><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 幼圆; mso-hansi-font-family: 新宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ansi-language: ZH-CN"><STRONG><FONT size=3>百亿四洲须弥庐,具足七宝随宝等,依正圆满可庆喜,人天资具如意库,<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></FONT></STRONG></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none" align=left><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 幼圆; mso-hansi-font-family: 新宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ansi-language: ZH-CN"><STRONG><FONT size=3>信心奉献上福田,最胜依怙大悲藏。<o:p></o:p></FONT></STRONG></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none" align=left><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ansi-language: ZH-CN"><o:p><FONT size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0" align=left><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ansi-language: ZH-CN"><FONT size=3>此为曼陀罗供。如可能应诵广曼陀罗文,不然诵此略颂亦可。曼陀罗供有不同种类：有二十三聚曼陀罗,二十五聚曼陀罗,及再加十二聚之三十七聚曼陀罗,三者随一皆可供之。若欲集数,我以为应供二十三聚,因其具足殊胜加持力故。</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0" align=left><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ansi-language: ZH-CN"></SPAN>&nbsp;</P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0" align=left><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 新宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ansi-language: ZH-CN"></SPAN><o:p><FONT color=#ff1493 size=3><STRONG>上文是这段话的出处，至于详细的解释，可参照下文：</STRONG></FONT></o:p></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0" align=left><o:p><FONT size=3></FONT></o:p>&nbsp;</P><o:p><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt" align=center><FONT size=3><STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">供曼陀罗文观行述记</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></STRONG></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><STRONG>&nbsp;</STRONG></FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt" align=center><FONT size=3><STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">比丘法尊译</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT face="Times New Roman">&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">安钦上师讲授</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">刘彭翊述记</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></STRONG></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><STRONG>&nbsp;</STRONG></FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt"><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">次明修法</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3>曼陀罗供中，堆数有多种不同，通常供者，七堆二十三堆二十七堆及三十七堆，为行者所常用，就中修显教者，多供七堆，七堆曼陀罗为常啼菩萨所造，修密宗者多供三十七堆。三十七堆及二十七堆均为元朝国师发思巴大师所造，二十三堆为宗喀巴大师所造，兹为完全故，说三十七堆修法。</FONT></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=3></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0" align=left><FONT color=#ff1493 size=4><STRONG>差别者，其文末说：</STRONG></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0" align=left><FONT size=4></FONT>&nbsp;</P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0"><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">以上合计共二十五堆，再加日月，则为二十七堆，供二十七堆曼陀罗者，如是供之，供三十七堆者，另加八种天女以及伞幢，则为完全曼陀罗。</SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0"><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0"><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">在《心生欢喜——兜率净土上师相应法门导修》里面，曾经说过，</SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0"><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 用供盘作供分为三十七供、二十五供及七供，另外还有较不普遍的其它传承。三十七供是各派共通之传承，只是供养文会依传承及当时供养之目的而有相异之处而已。二十五供则是宗喀巴大师之不共开示，所以我们修三十七供或二十五供都可以。 <P>因为今天是传授有关宗喀巴大师之法门，衲想还是教二十五供较为殊胜吧？！</P></SPAN></FONT><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0"><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><IMG src="http://www.b-i-a.net/d-t-m/books/images/book5_22.gif"></SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0"><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#ff0000>由上面可以看出，二十五及二十三几乎是一致的，具体的差别记得在什么地方看过，但是却想不起来了，不过rong老大在坛上，可以问他，如果按照在下的愚见，那就是仁者可以继续修二十五聚，就算索巴仁波切在《宗喀巴上师相应法》释论下《兜率百尊》的修法解释里面，也只是提起二十三供的名目，但是具体的教导却是三十七供，所以二十三那种可能是比较秘密的传承，一般人都不知道吧。</FONT></SPAN></P></o:p></FONT></SPAN>

肖泉璋

<P>供养自己的上师和佛法僧三宝的功德是最大的</P><P>供养自己的上师,其功德胜过供养十方诸佛,供养上师是供养佛,是供养法,是供养僧.也是供养自己的殊胜本尊和护法.</P><P>加持力和功德最大.</P>

笨者之帚

<P><FONT size=4>掌中解脱里面说：</FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt"><FONT size=4><SPAN lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;<FONT color=#0000ff>&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">卓贡却帕（众生估主法圣）（</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US>48</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">）的规炬是设三十七堆曼茶罗：须弥山王、四洲，八小洲、众宝山等四、七宝、宝藏瓶、嬉女等八，加上日，月、伞、幢。宗喀巴大师教派则修二十三堆。二十三堆曼茶罗和二十五堆曼茶罗的区别是：计不计大自在金刚地基和外铁围山二堆。</SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT color=#0000ff size=4></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><FONT size=4>二十五聚曼荼罗如果不计大自在金刚地基和外铁围山二堆，那就是二十三聚曼荼罗了，差别应该就是这个吧。</FONT></SPAN></P>

一飘儿

<P>承教!承教!</P><P>今天看了夏坝活佛的六加行的VCD,也有关于二十三聚曼达供养的开示.</P>

上善如水

23、25、27好象差不多，就是算甚么没算什么的分别而已。由于这是宗大师教的，所以对我们来说有特别意义。